Rebuttal: Religion

Religion Demystified – Response to Eastern/Other faiths Part 3


Assalamu ‘alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatahu to our Muslim Ummah and a Warm Welcome to all Seekers of True Knowledge

This Article is in reply to the article in Anti Islamic website with title,

Religion Demystified

Article is available here:

Refutation by Brother Md. Zeeshan Akhtar assisted by Brother Neer


The artice is divided into 3 sections:

(Part 1) Demystifying Religion in True sense

(Part 2) Refuting the false and wrong informations given by Agniveer about Islam in his article.

(Part 3) Response to points raised about Eastern religion and Miscellaneous Religions



Response to points raised about Eastern religion and Miscellaneous Religions.


Eastern Religions/ Hinduism

The third set of religions is the Eastern Religions. These are the oldest and foundation of almost all religious and philosophical thoughts including arabic cults. They include a variety of names like Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism, Vedic Dharma, Sanatan Dharma etc. If Hindu be the term depicting region on eastern side of Indus river, then all these collectively come under the umbrella of Hinduism or Hindutva. There are a huge number of sub-sects and varieties in these broad terms mentioned above. For example, in Sikhs we have Namdharis, Nirankaris, Udasis etc. In Jainism we have Shwetambar, Digambars and various sub-sects. Same with other terms as well.

Despite this myriad diversity, which at times appear contradictory on surface, there are certain common binding traits in all these religions under the fold of Hinduism:

a. None of these religions were founded by visionaries as defined in previous section. The founders of these religions instead were supposed to be exalted souls who realized truth in their own way. Thus no follower is expected to blindly believe in anything but explore truth in their own honest ways.



Islam was not founded by visionaries, but is the natural religion of all of Mankind chosen for us by Our Creator.

It’s a pity to see that Agniveer finally accepts that the founders of all Easterly Religions were supposed to be exalted souls who realized truth in their own way.

These religions were not a religion from God, but a distorted form of the religion of Islam by exalted souls who realized truth in their own way and this has been clearly explained above in the First section of this article.


Agniveer states:

b. All these religions believe in transmigration of soul and a continuity of life and death like day and night. Thus as per one’s deeds, soul goes through appropriate births in different species and situations.

c. All living beings are supposed to have same type of soul be it animal or human. All humans are supposed to have been in one of these species in past and also have probability to go into these species in future as well. That is why universal compassion for all living beings is a central theme of all these religions.



How faulty this notion of the cycle of birth and rebirth is can be easily understood. Refer to answer to point (f) in the above section and also point (f) of this section along with


Agniveer states:

d. A ten-fold tenets of Dharma/ religion is common among almost all sects. Interestingly, the sam shloka from Manusmriti (2.215) appears in almost all leading religions. These ten tenets include:

Patience, Forgiving, Self-control, Non-Stealing, Purity, Control of sense and action organs, Intellect, Knowledge, Truth, Freedom from anger.  Further, all these religions put non-violence as supreme tenet of human beings.



These points are very much present in the Natural religion of Submitting to God. And since these religions are bisected parts of the True Religion, these contain these few good points.


Imâm Ahmad said: “Allâh has mentioned patience in the Qur’ân in ninety places.” Here, we will list the different contexts in which patience appears.

Patience in enjoined upon believers: “And be patient for your patience is but by Allâh…” (an-Nahl 16:127).

“Now await in patience the command of your Lord…” (at-tûr 54:48).

The rewards of those who exercise patience will be doubled: “Twice will they be given their reward, for that they have persevered…” (al-Qasas 28:54).

“…Those who patiently persevere will truly receive a reward without measure!” (az-Zumar 39:10).

Patience is the way to earn the companionship of Allâh:

“…and be patient and persevering: for Allâh is with those who patiently persevere” (al-Anfâl 8:46).

Allâh has mentioned patience alongside the pillars of Islâm and îmân, as He has mentioned it

alongside sâlah: “Nay, seek (Allâh’s) help with patient perseverance and prayer…” (al-Baqarah 2:45);

alongside right actions: “Not so those who show patience and constancy, and do right actions; for them is forgiveness (of wrong actions) and a great reward” (Hûd 11:11);

alongside gratitude (shukr): “…Verily in this are Signs for everyone who patiently perseveres and is grateful” (ash-Shûra 42:32-33);

alongside truth:
“…and (join together) in the mutual teaching of truth, and of patience and constancy” (al-‘Asr 103:1-3);

alongside compassion: “…those who believe and enjoin patience, (constancy, and self-restraint), and enjoin deeds of kindness and compassion…” (al-Balad 90:17);

alongside faith:
“…so long as they persevered with patience and continued to have faith in Our Signs” (as-Sajdah 32:24);

alongside truth:
“…for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant…” (al-Ahzâb 33:35).

Allâh has made patience the means for attaining His love, His companionship, His help and support, and His good rewards. This is sufficient honour and blessings.


If I just start putting verses Just from the Qur’an on Forgiveness, it will take pages and pages. Given below are just examples:

Correct and courteous words accompanied by forgiveness are better than sadaqa followed by insulting words. Allah is Rich Beyond Need, All-Forbearing. (Surat Al-Baqara, 263)

those who give in times of both ease and hardship, those who control their rage and pardon/forgives other people – Allah loves the good-doers – (Surat Al ‘Imran, 134)

For more kindly visit:


The best example of this is the 3rd pillar of Islam which is Fasting in the month of Ramadan.

Qur’an Chapter 2 verse 183: O you who believe! Observing As-Saum (the fasting) is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may learn self – restraint.


Qur’an 2:188 And eat up not one another’s property unjustly (in any illegal way e.g. stealing, robbing, deceiving, etc.), nor give bribery to the rulers (judges before presenting your cases) that you may knowingly eat up a part of the property of others sinfully.

Punishment for stealing:

Qur’an 5:38
– Cut off (from the wrist joint) the (right) hand of the thief, male or female, as a recompense for that which they committed, a punishment by way of example from Allah. And Allah is All Powerful, All Wise.

Qur’an 5:39
– But whosoever repents after his crime and does righteous good deeds (by obeying Allah), then verily, Allah will pardon him (accept his repentance). Verily, Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.


Islam enjoins that we offer our prayer in a state of Purity:

Qur’an 4:43 – O you who believe! Approach not AsSalat (the prayer) when you are in a drunken state until you know (the meaning) of what you utter, nor when you are in a state of Janaba, (i.e. in a state of sexual impurity and have not yet taken a bath) except when travelling on the road (without enough water, or just passing through a mosque), till you wash your whole body. And if you are ill, or on a journey, or one of you comes after answering the call of nature, or you have been in contact with women (by sexual relations) and you find no water, perform Tayammum with clean earth and rub therewith your faces and hands (Tayammum). Truly, Allah is Ever OftPardoning, OftForgiving.

We are told not to eat Maytatah (a dead animal) or blood poured forth (by slaughtering or the like), or the flesh of swine (pork, etc.) for that surely is impure…. (Qur’an 6:145)

Qur’an 9:108And Allah loves those who make themselves clean and pure (i.e. who clean their private parts with dust (i.e. to be considered as soap) and water from urine and stools, after answering the call of nature).

And much more. If I start quoting all references then it will unnecessarily extend the topic.


Agniveer states:

e. All these religions believe that cause of life and death is the ignorance in souls. This ignorance is to be removed through constant practice of self-control and performing virtues. Blind belief is supposed to be anti-thesis of this purpose of ignorance eradication. Hence no human is expected to believe blindly in anything. Thus the guidelines of these religions are recommendatory in nature and not supposed to be recipe to reach any permanent Heaven or avoid Hell.



From the above analogy, the Hindus undergo cycle of birth and death is because their souls are ignorant. Because had their soul not been ignorant, then they would have been like Muslims.

If we look at it in a different angle, the Hindu souls are really ignorant about the truth of God, our only creator and the purpose of life in this world. They have hindered away from the Truth.

Leave this ignorance o people. Understand the Truth! Don’t believe blindly on any thing. Explore the Truth with an unbiased mind.


Agniveer states:

f. Human being is not expected to be able to understand complete truth in this life. Hence mutual discussions and debates are encouraged to collectively help each other move towards the truth. Thus, saints of various cults still maintain respect for each other while having differences in opinions.



Human beings have the best faculty of reasoning and understanding. How a lame claim is that ‘human being is not expected to understand the complete truth in this life’.

Moreover, if a human doesn’t understand truth in this life, then according to your Birth-Rebirth Policy, he may not get another chance to understand and improve, because he doesn’t know whether he will be given a life of an animal, bird or human in the next supposedly life.

Now since a human according to you is not expected to understand the complete truth in this life, then it is obvious that he will commit sins and mistakes, and hence chances are less that he will again be born as a human.

Suppose that he is not born as a human, then he will not be able to understand the truth even more in his subsequent lives, because no other species has the sense to understand and reason more than a human.

So you see, according to this Birth-Rebirth Policy, that person who had been born in some other form in his next life will again be born in an inferior form and again and again continue being born as inferior species, because his sense of understanding will subsequently go on decreasing continuously as he is being born in inferior species and he will not be able to understand the truth as because humans (the best advanced species) is not supposed to understand the Truth completely. This means that no one will attain the so called Moksha.

So you see how this Birth-Rebirth Policy is in itself a flaw.


Agniveer states:

g. A unique characteristic of these religions is the emphasis on meditation. Meditation is process of mind control and a variety of techniques for all levels of people are recommended by these religions. Self-realization being the focus of life, meditation is considered more important than forcing others to believe in a particular ideology through force. Interestingly, all these religions consider ‘Om’ as primary chant for achieving Supreme bliss.



We Muslims are commanded to offer Salaah (prayer) to Allah at least 5 times a day. During our Salaah we are in a state more advanced than meditation. We are in contact and communication with Our Creator. This not only purifies our soul, but also makes us realize the ultimate truth and bliss which we get by submitting our self to our creator.

Recently Tony Blair’s sister in law , Lauren booth, converted to Islam and in her statement as to what led her to accept the truth she said, that “She was mesmerized by the peace one gets while offering Prayer like we do and she could understand the immense amount of peace which we Muslims get by praying“. This was the statement of a Non-Muslim, the sister in law of a very big critic of Islam.

You can listen to her conversion story in her own words. Visit

Moreover, there is no compulsion in Islam as Allah said in
Chapter 2 verse 256,

﴿لاَ إِكْرَاهَ فِى الدِّينِ﴾

(There is no compulsion in religion), meaning, “Do not force anyone to become Muslim, for Islam is plain and clear, and its proofs and evidence are plain and clear. Therefore, there is no need to force anyone to embrace Islam. Rather, whoever Allah directs to Islam, opens his heart for it and enlightens his mind, will embrace Islam with certainty. Whoever Allah blinds his heart and seals his hearing and sight, then he will not benefit from being forced to embrace Islam.”


Agniveer states:

h. A lot of malpractices did creep into Hindu society over ages, partially due to the own debilities and partially due to influence of Arabic cults. But nonetheless, since there is no binding blind truth for a Hindu, they have scope to rise above these new weaknesses without having fear of being apostate.



Well there is a very well known proverb which says:Ulta Chor Kotwaal Ko daante(The one who is a thief when asked, blames the Master).

The ‘Malpractices’ of the Hindu’s of doing ‘Idol Worship’ was taken up by some so called Muslims, and the result is quite obvious that we have people calling themselves Muslims, but still visiting ‘Graves’ and ‘Shrines’ to ask for help. These  Muslims are completely ignorant about the definition of a Muslim and also ignorant about the teachings of the Qur’an.

Like Christians ask from Jesus Christ (pbuh), similarly many so called Muslims have over exaggerated in praising Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and asks from him rather than from the only true God.

All these are contrary to the teachings of Islam and contrary to the guidance taught by our last and final Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

All these were effects and ‘Malpractices’ which intoxicated the Pure Religion, when Islam came to India. This was not the case from the beginning.

It is quite evident that who introduced ‘Malpractices’ whether, the Arabs or the one’s trying to malign and mix in the original religion, of submitting to God.

If you want to see an example of who introduced malpractices then check this out: Here in India, welcoming Lakshmi with ‘Bismillah’


Agniveer states:

i. Each religion has its own religious book. Most of them consider Vedas to be supreme. Jains and Buddhists have their own texts. But no one claims that blind belief in any book is necessary. The only prerequisite is that one is desirous of knowing the truth and is putting efforts in that direction. Rest is supposed to happen automatically through forces of supreme.



Wrong again! Neither Jainism, nor Buddhism nor Sikhism considers Vedas to be supreme. It is only Agniveer type Hindus of Arya Samajis who consider Vedas to be supreme.

In hindus only 4-5% arya samaji  believe in vedas even in these 4- 5% only 6-7% read the vedas and all others  read Satyartha Prakash(which is considered to be the key of vedas) .How pitiful it is that now Satyartha Prakash, which is full of anomilies,cheat and fraud, have higher authority then vedas. It is more ironical that even these arya samaji don’t read Satyarth Prakash with understanding otherwise they will themselves throw it over.

Well, the supremecy battle in Hinduism is really interesting. Some people say ‘Puranas’ are supreme some say Vedas some say ‘Ithihas’ some say ‘Bhagvad Gita’? Aryasamaji claims that only vedas are supreme and all other sciptures are fabricated and false. But majority of Hindus don’t consider Vedas to be authentic. We are here providing work of one Acharya .In this article he Proves that Puranas and Ithihas are the part of Vedas . He called them 5th Vedas. He even put a very important point before us that, there is no use of Vedas in this age and only 6%  Vedas are left rest 94% had been lost.

Kindly see: Hindu scriptures: Battle of supremacy

See also : The Vedas-deep analysis on the basis of Dayanand ji teaching

And also – Vedas are Not Eternal


Agniveer states:

j. Each of these religions believe in Theory of Karma. It has several variations. But in principle, our present situations are supposed to be result of our past deeds and our future situations would be result of our present deeds. After death, one takes birth in most optimal place as per his deeds of previous life. Thus good deeds and noble thoughts are supposed to be key recipe for blissful life. The religious books are attempts to explain further details of what good deeds are. These are to be understood rather than mugged up blindly.



How faulty this notion of the cycle of birth and rebirth is can be easily understood. Refer to answer to point (f) above and also answer to point (f) in the Second Section of this article and also


Agniveer states:

Miscellaneous  Religions

Apart from these major religions, there are a minority of religions like Bahai, Zoroastrianism and new thoughts like Deism etc. Most of these are repackaging of the beliefs discussed earlier along with some of their own unique belief systems. The key point however is that none of them has ‘Only I am right’ approach and hence most of these are not part of any major controversies.



Strange fact that Agniveer categorizes the source of the vedic religion, Zoroastrianism, under the category of ‘Miscellaneous or Minority Religion’.

Go through the following link and see how Vedas have Zoroastrianism sources:

Even the True religion of Submitting to Our Only Creator does not have ‘Only I am right’ approach as clearly explained in the First section under the heading:
Can we say that My Religion is better than yours and more Superior?


Agniveer states:

How people follow a religion

e. Among Christians and Muslims, a lot of inter-conversions take place because of the way their respective evangelists market their own book and highlight defects in other’s book. This is more like a Pepsi vs Coke happening. This is also true for the boutique baba religions.



Now again Agniveer exposes itself and shows his biasness against Islam. People reading this article will by now have been very well aquainted with Agniveer’s lies and the Truth of Islam, Insha’ allah.

People revert back to Islam, because they truly understand the universatality of Islam, the religion of submitting yourself to the One and Only True God.


Agniveer states:

i. A very rare set of people actually analyze all religious ideologies in unbiased manner, or introspect on various aspects of life and then make an informed decision. The Arya Samajis of first generation belonged to this group. Though the modern day Arya Samajis are nothing but mostly Arya Samajis by default, as described in point a above.



Arya Samajis saying this statement that they are unbiased doesn’t go down the throat of any one reading this article.


 Agniveer states:

Solution to the confusion 

This in brief is the status of religions as they exist today. Religions would continue to exist and create controversies till planet earth exists because ‘after death what?’ would remain a puzzle forever for human beings. A more pragmatic approach to living peacefully in this confusion would be to:

d. All religious heads should start taking religion not as a personal business or ego issue, but means to discover truth, Thus everyone should have dialogues, come up with common tenets and evolve a pro forma of universal religion that is same for all human beings and for all times. Each society/ individual should be given liberty to fill in minor details as per their own needs, without transgressing the overall framework.



The Only solution to the problem will be, if people go back to their natural religion, their birth religion instead of following different religions. they should follow what is pure in its essence as well as definition.

So now Agniveer plans to bring up a NEW RELIGION, having the visions and advices of each society according to their needs. It is quite obvious that the society of thieves, repists etc will want to have share in this newly erected religion and fill in their own needs, because Agniveer is giving open chance to each society/ individual to fill in minor details as per their own needs.

Surely this will not be a religion from our creator. Our Creator is the one who created us and surely He didn’t forget to choose the right way/religion for us. Why do we need to erect such religions then? This is the very reason which has resulted into coming up of different religions out of the only religion of submitting to God.

Every society/individual would want to follow their desire, stubbornness etc, resulting in confusion and yet a new number of religions.

Rather, one option is to ‘Come upon and follow the commonalities in all religions’. A person should Research on his own religion as well as other religions and Insha’allah he will be guided to the ultimate truth of submitting to our creator.


Agniveer states:

e. The 11 tenets of religion as mentioned earlier should be foundation of this universal religion. Compassion, Character and Charity should be the guiding light.

I personally believe in Vedas being the only performa of such a universal religion. But even thrusting of Vedas as only truth, without due study by an individual, would be against the very essence of Vedas itself.



The Sanskrit word véda “knowledge, wisdom” is derived from the root vid- “to know”. This is reconstructed as being derived from the Proto-Indo-European root *ueid-, meaning “see” or “know”.
(Monier-Williams 2006, p. 1015; Apte 1965, p. 856)

As a noun, the word appears only in a single instance in the
Rigveda, in RV 8.19.5, translated by Griffith as “ritual lore”:

yáḥ samídhā yá âhutī / yó védena dadâśa márto agnáye / yó námasā svadhvaráḥ

“The mortal who hath ministered to Agni with oblation, fuel, ritual lore, and reverence, skilled in sacrifice.”

The noun is from Proto-Indo-European *ueidos, cognate to Greek (ϝ)εἶδος “aspect”, “form” . Not to be confused is the homonymous 1st and 3rd person singular perfect tense véda, cognate to Greek (ϝ)οἶδα (w)oida “I know”. Root cognates are Greek ἰδέα, English wit, etc., Latin video “I see”, etc.[ see e.g. Pokorny’s 1959 Indogermanisches etymologisches Wörterbuch s.v. u(e)id-²; Rix’ Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben, ueid-. Old-slavic and old-church slavonic/old bulgarian form Template:Veda “knowledge” and verb Template:Vediti “to know”]

The mystical notions surrounding the concept of the one “Veda” that would flower in Vedantic philosophy have their roots already in Brahmana literature, for example in the Shatapatha Brahmana. The Vedas are identified with Brahman, the universal principle (ŚBM,āc “speech” is called the “mother of the Vedas” (ŚBM,

There are strong linguistic and cultural similarities between the Rigveda and the early Iranian Avesta, deriving from the Proto-Indo-Iranian times, often associated with the Andronovo culture; the earliest horse-drawn chariots were found at Andronovo sites in the Sintashta-Petrovka cultural area near the Ural Mountains and date to ca. 2000 BCE.[Drews, Robert (2004), Early Riders: The beginnings of mounted warfare in Asia and Europe, New York: Routledge, p. 50]

Vedas are Not Eternal

Moreover, Arya Samajis claim that since Vedas were not written down and memorized and passed on as it is, hence there chances of being authentic are greater. You can see their claim here:

Well I need to inform the people reading this that the Holy Qur’an, not only was it written down at the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) but also memorized in seven different styles by many Huffaz and today there exist thousands of people who have the Qur’an in their hearts, the way it was revealed, even the pronunciation is saved. Bothe the memorized one and the written one matches exactly and has been the same since 1400 years ago.

Qur’an was written down as well as memorized while the Vedas as claimed by Arya Samajis were only memorized. The oldest of manuscripts of Vedas belonging to the Vajasaneyi tradition are dated from the 11th century onwards.

Even some Acharya of Hindus says that only 6% Vedas has been left now and in this age there is no use of them

This proves which of the books have greater chances of been preserved.

Forcing a religion or a Book is also prohibited in Islam, as explained earlier. Allah said in
Chapter 2 verse 256,

﴿لاَ إِكْرَاهَ فِى الدِّينِ﴾

(There is no compulsion in religion)

Agniveer’s claim that the Vedas have been passed on till generations and is the same which their fathers and forefathers followed. They believe on it blindly even though it contains facts which go against established science. Allah answers this issue very well,

Qur’an 43:22-24Nay! They say: “We found our fathers following a certain way and religion, and we guide ourselves by their footsteps.”And similarly, We sent not a warner before you (O Muhammad SAW) to any town (people) but the luxurious ones among them said: “We found our fathers following a certain way and religion, and we will indeed follow their footsteps.”(The warner) said: “Even if I bring you better guidance than that which you found your fathers following?” They said: “Verily, We disbelieve in that with which you have been sent.”

Qur’an  2:170When it is said to them: “Follow what Allah has sent down.” They say: “Nay! We shall follow what we found our fathers following.” (Would they do that!) Even though their fathers did not understand anything nor were they guided?

Qur’an  5:104And when it is said to them: “Come to what Allah has revealed and unto the Messenger (Muhammad SAW for the verdict of that which you have made unlawful).” They say: “Enough for us is that which we found our fathers following,” even though their fathers had no knowledge whatsoever and no guidance.


Agniveer states:

Name of book, thus is not important. But the knowledge is. Let everyone follow the universal religion and whatever be the truth, we shall be guided towards that automatically in proportion to our efforts. 

Till the intelligent among us work towards such a performa of universal religion, neither shall we be able to discover the mystery behind life, nor can there be peace in world. What shall remain is only the jungle rule of those who desire dominance in name of religion through politics, force or deceit. 

Mere declaration that all religions are good, would be a fruitless exercise as we all internally know that this cannot be the case. A more sensible approach would be to actually work towards a truly good religion – a universal religion – through consensus and deliberations and then let that be the ONLY religion sufficient for human beings. As mentioned earlier, each society/ individual should be given liberty to fill in minor details as per their own needs, without transgressing the overall framework.



Of course name of the book is not important, but the knowledge is. So how will one come to have knowledge of what is the truth and the right way? We have to be practical and assess all the religious scriptures and then ultimately we will come to the truth.

All religions are not equal, but they have some good things in them In the first section it has been proven as to why these religions are not equal and why they preach goodness.

As told earlier we humans are no one to select what is best for us. We are no one to arrive at a consensus of selecting or creating any new religion because what is good for some may not be good for others. So this theory of giving each society/individual a liberty to fill in details so that a new religion can be formed is really a faulty philosophy.

Remember truth can only be one. Search it before it is too late.

May we be guided to the truth by the guidance of our creator. May we strive and achieve the truth without an unbiased mind.

Our last call is all praise is to Allah and may His Salah and Salam be upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family.


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